
Well, now Chiba loses his temper, half turns away, and then tries to sucker punch him, thinking it’s timing. So Wang lets Chiba punch him in the stomach. Well, we walked in, and Wang scopes out Chiba right away, like he knows who has the attitude here, takes one look, and says, ‘come here boy.’ Seriously, Wang’s over sixty, paid lots of dues, is a religious leader and all, and here comes these punks, as far as he’s concerned, in their twenties, copping an attitude. Terry stated to me, (I’m quoting as best as I can remember) “the uchi-deshi at honbu, particularly Chiba, started giving me a raft of **** that I was being disloyal to O-sensei by studying with Wang, and I asked O-sensei, and he said, ‘sure, do what you want’ but they wouldn’t let up so I said, “why don’t you come and check him out for yourself.” So Draeger and me took Chiba, Saotome and Tamura. He made it clear that that was out of bounds, and if you broke the rules, then he’d become, shall we say, active.” Wang was doing demos in Japanese martial arts demonstrations and as Ken Cottier put it, “here you’d have all these startched Japanese in their crisp keiko gi and their crisp snappy movements and then out would come this fat Chinaman in grey flannel slacks and suspenders and he’d start doing impossible slow TAIJIQUAN and he’d turn around and this ass as big as the moon would waft across the stage and then he’d challenge all comers to have a go at him and the young karate boys would be rabid and he’d let them punch his stomach or kick him in the groin and he’d just laugh it off but heaven help you if you tried to punch his head. Among this group was Terry Dobson, who was a live-in student of Morihei Ueshiba of aikido. Draeger learned some pa-kua, Wang would also show some Hsing I, but mostly he taught TAIJIQUAN. Wang started teaching in the grounds of Meiji shrine, and somewhere along the line a group of non-Japanese around Donn Draeger started training with him. I didn’t know that Ken Cottier was present but he was also part of the group. I also heard Terry tell this story again in a group with Mitsugi Saotome present, who amidst laughter chimed in and agreed. I will quote the story that Terry Dobson told me, which was corroborated at another time by Donn Draeger. Terry Dobson’s version (as told by Ellis Amdur): My students then came between us, and that was that. So this time he pushed me with both hands in the belly, and threw me quite a distance across the room. Master Wang snatched his wrist from me, and challenged me immediately. Even though I applied Kote Gaeshi strongly and injured him, he did not go down. So I met him, made Tai Sabaki (body evasion) and took his wrist with Kote Gaeshi, (wrist crush/reversal) … his wrist made a loud snapping noise as I applied it. This went on for some minutes until he moved forward to push me. At the dojo my students introduced us, and he politely asked me to show some Aikido.Įven though his words were warm it was still a challenge! Well, we faced each other, and Master Wang made something like Sumo posture with his hands outstretched. Eventually I accepted and went to watch his class. They invited me to come along and see him. So, anyway two of my private students were also studying Tai Chi under Mr Wang, and they were very impressed with him. I would have done something else (Sensei demonstrated a groin kick and face punch whilst saying this). Well, at the end of his display he had a number of Karateka line up in front of him, and each of them punched him in the belly. He was from Taiwan and he was very big indeed. I was in a big demonstration of Martial Arts in Tokyo in the early 1960’s, and Tai Chi Chuan was being shown by Mr Wang. Q: …As we are talking about challenges would you mind telling me about your confrontation with Mr Wang, the Tai Chi Master from China?Ĭhiba: Who told you about this … Mr Cottier perhaps?Ĭhiba: (Laughter) O.K. Here are two versions of his meeting with Kazuo Chiba, the first from Chiba himself, and the second from Terry Dobson via Ellis Amdur. Wang Shu-Jin had some points of interaction with the Aikido community through American Aikido student Terry Dobson, who trained with him in Japan. Wang was also a leader in a Taoist Sect called the Constant Path ( I Kuan Tao). In this section of a four part interview he discusses meeting Wang Shujin, a noted Chinese teacher of Bagua Zhang, Taiji Quan, and Xingyi Quan. Smith punching Wang Shujin in 1960īorn in 1927, Hidemine Jibiki (地曳秀峰) started training in Okinawan Karate then moved on to Japanese Hakko-ryu Jujutsu and Daito-ryu Aiki-jujutsu.
